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jazzyj's avatar

Glad you wrote about this issue of division. It can occur through ideology and also beliefs. The virus/no virus issue has become a divisive topic as well. I just wish people could try to work together to stop people who are truly evil and want to exploit others for personal and political gain. For me it is about freedom from tyranny and exploitation. I wish people could live their lives unencumbered by tyrants who want pit people against each other so they can exploit them.

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To focus on the concluding paragraphs, my argument is that some of the fine appeals you have posted should be seen as expressions of goodwill and suggestions rather than soberly reasoned and universally applicable principles.

First, Roger Scruton: “we must speak peaceably even to our accusers. We must avoid the name-calling, shrug off the ‘isms’ and ‘phobias’ when they are heaped on us. Confess to our true faults, and robustly deny the invented ones. Most importantly, we should venerate Truth and ignore political correctness, which is not the cure to our conflicts but the ultimate source of them”

When Scruton was accused of trying to create immoral ties with the tobacco industry, he did not “robustly deny” his fault. Years later, he would say that the distortion of truth in the attacks on him created such a complex situation, that he realized that any attempt at clarifying the matter in public would have been futile.

Nor did Scruton “robustly deny” the invention that he’s 'a racist' in 2019.

(Which, to my mind that was perfectly reasonable of him, for reasons that are fairly obvious.)

You write: “Looking for scapegoats, replacing justice with ‘social justice’, rioting, looting and cheering on said destruction, and trying to shut people up for their difference in opinion, isn’t a recipe for social cohesiveness and long-term success.”

Nationalities and societies developed under conditions of many natural obstacles to flow of information, and specific environmental conditions that were only mildly moderated by human technology. Now, as the information obstacles are becoming virtually extinct, and ways of life become increasingly similar everywhere, it is reasonable to consider that social cohesion may vitally depend on artificial limits to technology and flows of information, including possibly limits to sharing opinions. Social ties are primarily a matter of instinct, emotions, rather than reasoning, which has important implications for the role of opinions and their sharing, too complex to divulge here. Simply, people navigate their ways in life on the basis of their worlds of feelings.

Conclusions like these are easy to draw from the 'world news', as well as from from personal experiences.

The other week one of you blocked me on Telegram after my posting this (frankly mediocre) post https://t.me/c/1351840148/94111 which, by the way, expresses a viewpoint shared by Michael Anton, the high-profile supporter of president Trump: https://compactmag.com/article/why-the-great-reset-is-not-socialism

If that wasn’t shutting up for difference of opinion, and how it affected your feelings, it’s hard to imagine what was it for.

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